Monday, April 7, 2008

Homosexuality: A Sin, the Biblical Case

why is homosexuality NOT a sin? If God deems it so, shouldn't that be enough whether humans agree with it or not?

That's my point, anyone who takes the Bible seriously as the Word of God and that it is perfect and flawless, "knows" that homosexuality is a sin.
There are people (Christians) who try to defend it, but there's really no case if you take the Bible seriously.

The first section includes fairly clear and straightforward references to homosexuality being a sin.
The second section includes verses that seem to have some relevance, although it is not necessarily direct or clear, on the subject.

Genesis 13:13
But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

1 Kings 14:24
And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.

Romans 1
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


Leviticus 22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 23:
17 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Isaiah 3:9
The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

1 Timothy 1:10
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.


Anonymous said...

I'm not arguing that there are verses saying homosexuality is wrong, however, I do not think that it's fair to judge the Bible based off of what some of it's "followers" think.

People aren't perfect, doesn't mean that the Bible isn't.


Anonymous said...

By the way, I just thought of something, the Bible isn't understanding towards picking and choosing what you believe in it. So perhaps these people that say that homosexuality is okay, are not TRUE Christians. If you have trouble understanding WHY it's wrong? That's another story.

From that list before when you said what some Christians think, well, the people themselves may call themselves Christians, but they probably have not been completely transformed if they cannot accept the fact that God says it's wrong.

Sure we're supposed to be understanding and tolerant, doesn't mean that we like it. We may defend the people that are homosexual, but it doesn't mean we think it's right. Everyone is a sinner, and that is their sin, true Christians should not condemn people for what sin they commit. That's God's job.

As a Christian I'm commanded to love everyone, if they're a homosexual, rapist, or a murder. But we obviously don't uphold those actions as virtuous.

Samantha said...

The bible is ridiculous if it says that kind of shit. I wrote a paper last year where I actually came across all those quotes, and I'm amazed how much they still piss me off. Anyway, as to the comments also left on here... "People aren't perfect, doesn't mean the Bible isn't" WELL since people wrote the bible, then there's a really good chance it's not perfect.

Emonix said...

I believe the contemporary interpretation of homosexuality and christianity is that "homosexuals" are not sinners but "homosexual acts" is a sin. Therefore, being a homosexual and celibate would still make you perfect in "god's" eye.

I challenge Victoria's "people aren't perfect, doesn't mean that the bible isn't." As far as I know, (and to everyone's knowledge) the bible was written by people. Therefore you are contradicting yourself by saying that people aren't perfect but the bible is.

As we all know, through the King James version, Good News bible, The Living bible, etc. the bible is a watered down reinterpretation and translation of old texts written by a bunch of human beings. If we were to follow them word by word, which version should we follow?

Lastly, I have always considered the bible as a fictitious literature. Sure, the stories are cute and some do teach you to be a good, righteous human being but come on ... If someone digs up a tome that predates jesus and it mentions that earth is actually inside a snow globe and our mere existence were planned out by aliens as a mean psychological experiment. Would you believe such story? What makes you think that the tome is not "the absolute truth" and that it was words of "god"? It seems far fetched doesn't it?

That's exactly what I think of christianity.

Brian said...

When Jesus roamed the earth, he seemed to take hold of the disadvantaged and the outcasts of society and put them into the mold... you are with God just as much as anyone else is. All people had an opportunity, not just the privileged and elite, to follow Christ. His 12 disciples were from undesirable and low professions in the society. He had challenged the religious leaders at the time, and made God more open than at any time.

With our understanding that being homosexual is not by choice but by some genetic abnormality causing one to have attraction to the same sex ... it probably would not be as big of a deal as in the Biblical days. Christianity in its early days was seen as a radical reform of Judaism, not its own separate religion. Most of the people who would still be upset by it would be those who would be weirded out by the concept of gay sex in the first place, not necessarily gay people.

Quincy said...

again, some people are missing the point.

the Bible is the Word of God, no? then how come we keep saying it is the word of the people?
if it's the word of the people, then most of it should not be taken very seriously at all...

Emonix said...

Quin, we say that the bible is the "word of the people" not "word of god" because god never wrote the texts. The texts, which are now binded into what we refer to as the bible, was written by the people. For example, Deuteronomy was one of the sermon delivered by Moses, and then written by him. Moses is "the people", not "god". God never wrote the bible, technically.

Anonymous said...

I can understand your point that you think that the Bible is the word of people. But that's not what Biblical Christians believe. So, if you are going to look at the Bible, you have to look at it from the standpoint of a Christian, not what you think the Bible is.

It's irrelevent whether I think the it's people that wrote it, or God inspired it, what matters is that Biblical Christians say it's the Word of God, so we have to look at it in that context.

Anonymous said...

One other thing about what Brian said about being homosexual.

First of all, being homosexual often is a result of being sexually abused, and not always a genetics issue.

Christianity's view on homosexuality is not flawed. We have genetic problems due to human nature being sinful. This was what happened after man sinned. Diseases entered into the world because of man's sin. Whether people think this is fair or not is irrelevent.

Emonix said...

Victoria, I'm gay. I was never abused by my parents, in fact that love me alot.

Being homosexual is not a result of abuse, it's an inate feeling, an attraction to the same sex.

"We have genetic problem due to human nature being sinful". You have no idea how much I am laughing right now. Genetic problems happen because base pairs in our DNA were translated wrong, or a wrong base pair sequence. I'm sure for some christians (esp. you), it would make sense that genetic problem is due to human being's sinful act. It also make sense to me that I think you never took any science classes. But that's beside the point.

Brian said...

If anything, the Bible is several things. Much of the Old Testament is the history of the Jews until about a few hundred years before Christ. The four gospels are about the life and teachings of Jesus. Acts is the establishment of the church after the crucifixion. And much/all of the New Testament between Acts and Revelation are letters from church leaders (mostly if not all Paul) to various other churches and/or their leaders. All of this is inspired by God. And since the New Testament is based on Jesus Christ, which in the Trinity structure is also God, then it could be stretched to say it is the word of God in a sort. And considering Christians came from the Judaism tradition ... anything relating to Jewish history is important in Christian understanding of God.

Of course, I still say that if the Bible was written now ... it would be framed and worded a lot differently than it was in the time of Christ ... simply because of all the scientific and sociological advances in the past two millenia.

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